Negarakuku by NameWee
By a guy from Muar, namawee
近年本港出現不少公司，以經營傳銷、網絡、保健美容產品等為名，意圖誘騙消費者或有意投資者參與其種金計劃或層壓式推銷計劃。消費者須認清各種銷售模式，勿被高回報、高利潤等聲稱所吸引，以免誤墮圈套，招致巨額損失。 ( 消費者委員會 )
層壓式推銷是一種不能持久的商業運作模式，參與者介紹其他人加入可賺取佣金，而這些佣金正來自新會員的入會費，如此 類推，一層壓一層，公司通常沒有提供任何產品或服務。這種推銷手法至少有100年的歷史。其他類似的手法有多層式推銷 (multi-level marketing) 和 matrix scheme，但與層壓式推銷不同，這些經營手法是合法的。
大部分層壓式推銷試圖混淆視聽，把騙局包裝得複雜和似是而非。參與者付入會費後，要介紹其他人入會才有收入，上層的 參與者可以分享下層參與者的入會費，一層壓一層，如金字塔一樣，金錢向上邀集，發起人是最終得益者。最受害的是最低層的參與者，因為他們未能夠介紹其他人 入會，支出了卻沒有回報。為了欺騙參與者，層壓式推銷通常牽涉假個案和假證據。
歷史
層壓式推銷有很多不同版本，最早的模式是以信件行騙。信件寫上有5至10個地址的列表，收信人把表上第一個地址刪 去，在表末加上自己和其他人的地址，成為新的列表，寫在新的信上，然後把此信連同指定的小額金錢寄去剛被刪的地址。寄信人希望程序一直重複，終有一天自己 的地址成為列表上首個地址，接收累積的金錢。
大規模的層壓式推銷曾於前蘇聯共和國發生。蘇聯解體後不久，當地的人對股票市場不熟悉，被誤導以為可以輕易獲得 10倍以上利潤。最惡名昭彰的是俄羅斯的 MMM 騙局和阿爾巴尼亞的層壓式推銷騙案。
法例禁止
很多國家明文規定禁止層壓式推銷，但仍禁之不絕。雖然純粹牽涉金錢的層壓式推銷已差不多絕跡，但很多層壓式推銷都以售買貨品作掩飾，卻以招攬會員為實。
特徵
層壓式推銷提供的產品本身幾乎毫無價值，或者是以高出市價的價錢出售。這些「產品」包括教授參與者如何招攬新會員的 小冊子、錄音帶等，價錢可能高達數百至數千美元。互聯網上的宣傳文本， 常以「如何在網絡上賺 100萬元？」做招徠。其他的例子包括，把產品以遠高於市價的價錢出售。結果是祇有參與推銷的人才會購買，而唯一可以賺取金錢的途徑是介紹更多的新人，因 為部份新人入會費是舊人的佣金。
層壓式推銷的特徵：
．硬銷手法
．保證可得可觀收入
．沒有產品，或產品以遠高於市價出售
．收入純粹來自介紹別人入會的佣金，而不是靠售賣產品予非會員
．通常祇有最早期加入的人才能賺錢
《禁止層壓式推銷法條例》
「層壓式推銷計劃」(pyramid selling scheme) 是銷售計劃的一種，所有參與該計劃的人都要先付出一筆金錢，以換取授權銷售特定的產品或服務。與此同時，參與者亦可介紹更多其他人士參與此計劃，進一步擴大公司的銷售網絡。
問題是：參與者每介紹一名新人加入時都可獲得報酬，但報酬並非按其本人或其介紹之參與者的實際銷售業績計算。簡單而言，參與者的報酬主要來自推銷計劃本身或俗稱「拉人頭」，而非來自產品銷售，當中所涉及的產品亦往往一文不值。根據香港法例第355章《禁止層壓式推銷法條例》，這種推銷形式是違法的。
Q 「直銷」與「傳銷」有何分別？
A 「直銷」 (Direct Marketing)
可包括電話直銷、郵遞直銷、電視直銷及人傳人的直接傳銷；直接傳銷亦即翻譯自英文的 "Direct
Selling"，直接傳銷又簡稱為「傳銷」。直接傳銷與傳統銷售的分別，在於產品不需經過傳統出口商、入口商、批發商及零售商等渠道，而是由直銷商直接
將產品銷售到顧客手中。
Q 何謂層壓式推銷？
A 層壓式推銷的主要特點在於參加者須要負擔高昂的參加費用，並且透過「拉人頭」方式以賺取利潤，而不會著重產品銷售。利用層壓式推銷手法所銷售的產品，質素多為參差低劣，也沒有退貨保證；而直銷商在退出其公司時，剩餘的仍可銷售之產品，亦不能退回有關公司。
Q 正當與不正當直銷之區別為何？
A
正當直銷
1. 參加費用低
2. 通過銷售產品獲得報酬
3. 優質產品
4. 冷靜期內可退貨
5. 直銷公司會向退出之直銷商購回
過多而仍可售賣之存貨
不正當直銷
1. 巨額參加費
2. 拉人頭以賺取利潤
3. 不重視產品質素
4. 不設冷靜期或退貨條件苛刻
5. 不會購回過多存貨
Q 如客戶或會員對直銷公司產品不滿，是否可以退回貨品，取回現金？有否附帶條件？
A 每家公司均有其特定的經營模式，但凡屬香港直銷協會的會員公司（包括美國安利亞太區香港分公司、關懷國際香港有限公司、香港康寶萊國際有限公司、Mary Kay、美國如新香港分公司及美國立新世紀有限公司）都必須遵守香港直銷協會的各項守則，其中的保障包括：
1. 為消費者提供不少於七日的退貨保證；
2. 直銷商在退出該公司時若存有仍可銷售的產品，直銷公司則必須購回該等存貨，另收取之手續費不可高於貨價的百分之十，以保障直銷從業員的利益。
Q 香港直銷協會怎樣監管直銷商？
A 香港直銷協會制訂了一套直銷公司之商德守則，其中亦明確列出會員公司的直銷商須遵守之規則，包括如實介紹產品功效及用法等，以監管直銷商的經營活動。
Q 如對直銷商手法不滿，是否有投訴途徑？
A 如被投訴直銷商的所屬公司為香港直銷協會的會員公司，消費者可直接向該公司或香港直銷協會作出投訴及諮詢，以便作進一步跟進；但若該公司並非香港直銷協會會員公司，消費者則需另行投訴，例如與消費者委員會聯絡，尋求協助。
青年不聽父勸 墮層壓式推銷陷阱
2/5/05太陽報
【太陽報訊】銅鑼灣一間層壓式推銷香薰油公司，涉藉靚女在互聯網物色「羊牯仔」，一青年誤墮陷阱竟借貴利買貨，欠下財務公司六萬元，其家人考慮報警求助。
疑被騙的十九歲姓葉青年，兩個月前在 ICQ上認識姓鄭少女，雙方多次約會後，鄭女自稱是香薰油傳銷商，游說葉入行。上月初，葉應邀到銅鑼灣的辦事處聽講座，職員聲稱只要付出六萬四千元，便可 購得價值八萬元的香薰油，而每介紹一人加入，更可獲五千元獎金。葉曾向父母諮詢意見，葉父則勸兒子切勿中計。
惟上月二十七日，葉再被鄭女帶到該公司，終經不起車輪戰游說，答應開戶。職員教唆葉到兩間財務公司借貸，又唆擺葉冒 充父母簽署合約文件。直至前晚，葉家人收到財務公司收數信，始揭發葉懷疑受騙。警方防止罪案科指出，層壓式推銷計畫最終無可避免會崩潰，除最早加入的少數 人士，絕大部分人都會蒙受損失，故呼籲市民切勿輕信。
警破層壓式推銷集團拘23人
香港政府新聞網 2005年2月2日
警方突擊搜查該位於旺角、油麻地及尖沙咀的3間公司，拘捕23名涉嫌與層壓式推銷詐騙有關人士，牽涉金額超過3,000萬元。
西九龍重案組人員自去年初展開行動，調查3間涉嫌推銷層壓式計劃的公司，他們誘使投資者參與現金投資計劃，以騙取金錢。
警方發現該3間公司已擴大經營範圍至廣東省，估計有超過1,000名受害人被騙，其中包括香港及內地人士，牽涉金額估計超過3,000萬元。
調查顯示，受害人被誘騙投放金錢於不同的投資計劃，而該公司聲稱投資的金錢將用於代理不同產品，包括羊胎素、暖風機、化妝品及酒。
該公司也向投資者稱若投資14萬元，在15個月內將可獲得90萬元回報。
警方今天採取行動，突擊搜查該位於旺角、油麻地及尖沙咀的3間公司，拘捕9男14女，年齡介乎19至57歲，他們涉嫌串謀行騙；其中年齡27至57歲的兩男兩女，相信是公司的核心成員；並在行動中檢獲300萬元。
案件現正由西九龍總區重案組跟進調查。
伊朗查禁港層壓式公司涉20億元 28人被捕
11月 4日 星期五 05:05 更新
【明報專訊】總部設在香港、售賣黃金產品的公司 GoldQuest International 被伊朗司法部指為危險的層壓式推銷公司，被勒令停止在當地運作。伊朗檢控官 Hamid Reza Taefi 說，有國民投訴該公司欺騙，因他們購買的錢幣，其價值只及售價的三分一。 伊朗當局在首都德黑蘭拘捕了 28人，全部獲准保釋。
GoldQuest International 用電子貿易方式售賣聲稱極有收藏價值的錢幣及珠寶。一個重 7克、價值約 920港元（118美元）的錢幣，該公司以限量發售為由，將售價訂為 5,000港元（650美元）。這批錢幣印有包括伊斯蘭聖城麥加和美國性感女神瑪麗蓮夢露的圖像。
該公司承諾向介紹親友用現金購買錢幣的購買者提供佣金，至今有50萬名伊朗人加入該公司。以每名伊朗人花 4,000港元（520美元）購買最便宜的產品計算，伊朗經濟共損失了約 20億港元（2.6億美元），轉介他人購買該公司產品的伊朗人，亦被控令外匯流失和走私等罪名。
GoldQuest International 香港總部的金融及公司策略主管 Richard Zinkiewicz 向法新社記者表示，該公司純粹做「多層面的市場推廣生意」（multi-level marketing business），「不少國家質疑我們做生意的模式，但我們財務狀況良好」，該公司目前有 140萬來自世界各地的顧客。他又說，該公司或許在網上交易的稅務問題上冒犯了伊朗當局，又或每月向司法部提供的款項不足夠。
Comparing Legitimate Multi-Level Marketing
with
Illegal Pyramid Schemes
Are There Profits In Pyramid Schemes?
Don't Bank On It
Are you under the impression that multi-level marketing plans are all pyramid schemes? Well, they're not.
Many people consider all MLMs to be "pyramids" - but they fail to make the distinction between "illegal" and "legal" pryamids, considering anything that is based upon a pyramid shape to be illegal - forgetting that their own job, the government, their church, and virtually every organization that they belong to or know of is top-down oriented and shaped as a pyramid.
Legitimate multi-level-marketing plans are a way to sell real goods or services through distributors. These plans usually show that if you sign up to be a distributor, you will receive commissions - not only on your sales of the plan's goods or services, but also on the sales of the people you recruit to join the distributors. One of the keys is that there are actually tangible products and services moving through the network, rather than just the building of the network or "building mailing lists" or "sending recipes" or "sending jokes," etc., such as chain letters usually have you do.
Pyramid schemes have a similar structure, but a completely different focus. They concentrate on the commissions you could earn just for recruiting new distributors, and generally ignore the marketing and selling of products or services. The Federal Trade Commission requires a minimum of 10 non-distributor customers per month to be serviced by each distributor after a certain period - without these customers, it is an illegal pyramid.
Most countries outlaw pyramiding. The reason: Plans that pay commissions for recruiting new distributors inevitably collapse when new distributors can't be recruited. When a plan collapses, most people - except perhaps those at the very top of the pyramid - lose their money.
Here are tips to help you avoid losing money to an illegal pyramid scheme or a fraudulent multi-level marketing plan:
-- taken from http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/
"................Why I say it is not advisable for muslim to join LB?First-they teach
people to lie. When we invest for count we will get rebate about RM2k
and they taught me to tell people that the RM2k is my first
income.Second- they encourage members to join the tea party usually at
night about 9-10 pm. Where in Islam it is not good for women to hang
out mixed with guys at night.At the tea party they will talk about the
biz and show off that some of them have quited their job and make much
money with LB to influence others who haven't joined.Third- There are
other activities which I felt not comfortable with where they encourage
the audience to scream, sing and dance to burn the 'semangat' in
ourselves and to influence others.
Before joining them I searched
the internet and found this blog and felt afraid to join LB, but since
I believe in my friend I ignored this blog. When I told them about this
blog they said that they are failure people and don't follow them plus
the blog owned by SYN not SGN.
People who are engrossed in the biz
won't realize something is wrong in that biz because they are happy
getting lots of money, but the ones who make decision to refund will
understand the deceptions in this business."
for the complete article. visit the blog.
A young girl named Chang who is also a fragrance product agent
acccidently burned her car bcoz she bring along her fragrance product
on car as encourage by
her upline and company. That company of course
is Lampe Berger which appear like to encourage it's agents to put their
product on car to purify the air. Luckily no one was hurt. The head of
Taipei firestation said he could not understand why would someone put
90% Isopropyl Alchohol product on their car which almost like asking
for to get burn.
Source: http://online.sunshine.org.tw/bbs/view.asp?thread_id=2022
Hi i'm John,
I joined LB for 2 months already and i decide to refund cause those uplines are really bugging me a lot for upgrading to count which cost RM30k (Now no more offer i guess, its RM36-38k if i'm not mistaken).
They told me its impossible for you to success without cloning the RM30k system, and i did some research and found its true that you must clone in order to success, but what they told me when i haven't join is totally different, they told me RM2k is just a small amount that you can borrow it easily from your friend or family, they even ask you to borrow from loan sharks who are relatives of upline in LB so we cannot complaint them.
I never give up, i keep trying everyday to meet friends and relatives to talk to them about this business, but i found they all are avoiding to meet me and some even don't want to pick up their phones when i call them. Being a part of MLM will really make all your friends run away from you, you will start to feel lonely.
Another thing is the attitude of your uplines are totally different compare to before you join and after u joined. You will feel like you are begging them to help you to find prospect and whatever they say you must listen or else you're dead.
Lastly, about the refund procedure, i called to the office and ask for the whole procedure about refund. I'm not sure about the RM30k but RM2345 is like this:
1. Write a letter to the company to tell them you want to resign or fill in an account termination form provided in the company.
2. If all the products you bought are given by the company, you will get an invoice (a few yellow papers) and you must photostat it and submit together with the termination form/letter to the counter in the company.
3. You must not bring the products while doing step 1 and step 2, they will contact you few days later then only you bring the items for refund.
4. Make sure the products are in good condition and not used before.
5. Around one month after you pass them the products you will recieve a cheque with the amount of 90% from the total you paid.
If the products are bought in the company instead of given by your upline, then you still got some hope. Well, still looks "ok" right? At least can refund...but wait....
When your upline bring you to buy the products, they use their own names to buy it with the reason "discount". The total PV you need to become a franchisee is 2345PV = RM2345, so if your upline buy for you, you can get a discount of 20% (franchisee discount), 29% (baron discount), 38% (count discount) from RM2345. So the products can say are bought by them even you paid, the invoice only have their names, they transfer the PV to you only, and they demand cash from you cause they buy for you so they don't have any commisions.
Then the problem comes, there's another refund method for situation above, procedure as below:
1. Return the products to your upline.
2. Your upline must pay you the amount of the total products you're refunding.
3. Your upline will take the products to the company and refund. How they refund i'm not sure but i guess its something similar like above.
Well, i guess your upline is not stupid enough to do that.....
Here are some advice for you guys who being asked to join LB:
1. Do not follow them to their company at Menara HLA near KLCC. If you did, DO NOT being impressed by them with their bullshit fake story.
2. If you joined, before anything goes worse please do not go for their any gatherings and get your refund as soon as possible. They say treat you go where also don't go, mamak/KTV/movie where also, its not enjoying at all, its sharing you some fake stories to make you exited and convince you to upgrade to RM30k.
3. Do not sign the application form when they asked you. They will say, this is just something to prove that you are temporary my prospect and no one can force you to join them. They will not let you have the chance to read the agreement behind the form, it wrotes behind, quite small..."No.3(i) I agree to pay the membership fee and other registration charges currently enforced by the company".
4. Never ever go to anywhere when someone who is in LB calls you, its a trap.
5. If you insist to join, please do not let your upline do for you. The invoice must have your name in it.
6. Do not get confuse while they telling you the marketing plan, they will make you confuse so that you will think what they said is all true.
How they convince you to join?
1. Someone in LB will find his upline for help if they can't convince you alone. He most probably will find his upline who have a nice car to come and find you.
2. Your friend will not say anything but agree at everything his upline telling you. Even his upline made a mistake on the plan he also will
3. They will start talking to you normally to get close to you.
4. His upline will simply give a reason to walk away from you a while.
Then your friend will T-Up (Talk good things) about his upline to impress you.5. When he finish explain the marketing plan to you, your friend will straightaway take out an application form and probably will say "what are you waiting for? lets join us" something like that.
I hope everyone who wants to join LB can read my experience in LB before they join.
--- TAKEN FROM http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/
Hey Steven!
I am Liya. A malay, Muslim who has been cheated and annoyed by my 'good friend'.
Are you updating your antiLB blog?
Pls keep it up.
I am one of the member and will lost half of RM33k. I hope I can get back the half by this month.
I havent got the money yet, I gave them chance but now they are asking me to give them chance again.
They
said they want to buy my account to help me not to 'rugi' so much, but
I know they afraid they will lost PV if they refund my products. My
upline is a Marquis challenger and I know she really needs the PV.
They cant give me the money before I go back to Malaysia to change the account name.
FYI, I am in Japan now.
My goodness I dont know what to say.
They were my good friends.
For your info, I was in another group, not SYN.
You know about it right?
To those who are active in LB and read this msg, from my experience LB is a SCAM.
SYN or Steady Global Network , sama saja..boleh blah and penipu. Selffish!!
I did not refund because I couldnt get any dlines, I could have if I want but I made decision to refund before my friends join me..I could smell something wrong with the biz, I believe it is not a halal biz for muslims.
I will tell you the whole story when I have time. Pls publish this.
Thanks
Hallo... please do your research properly la.. LISTEN UP HERE.
DCHL is the Taiwan company who is the sole distributor for Lampe Berger products in Asia. The local Malaysian company that holds the license is RZ Corporation, who has joint-ventured with DCHL. WHY? Because foreign MLM companies are not allowed to do business here. They need a local Malaysian company to apply for license.
Second thing I want to highlight is this:
DCHL is selling a 1 litre bottle of oil for more than RM200.
In the US, it is selling for only USD17. = less than RM 65.
So think about that.
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FYI, this is the so called France company they bragged about but based in Taiwan.
well... lampa burger are best avoided at all cost... Why? the below are what happened to 2 of my friends.
Friends 1.
Age 26++
codenamed "lie artist" 
Joined LB secretly and yet still lying to me now...
1st
- tried to borrow 10K stating that money r used in investing in a spa
at HLA building (that LB wan lar) and will said to repay me in 3mth
period. This fits the LB scheme... After i don have it, reduced to 5K,
then reduced to 1K and lastly tried to borrow only RM50 bucks.... I
know what happend so i didn't borrow a single cent. Then she got feedup
and started to say very nasty things.... end of relationship with this
close friend. Now still dare to call me one a while to borrow money with many variation lie like friend in hospital need donation, over
spend card money, etc....
Friend 2.
Age 33
codenamed "Broken Arrow"
Joined
LB and seems to be successfull. He very honest though unlike the first
one. First he picked me up for "yam cha" n i go with his BMW very nice
n we talked LB of coz in the mamak...But when it come to setlle bill at
mamak stall, he sais "we all pay our own drink", i say "wat the f**k! driving a BMW and don wan to treat me a limau ais!" He replied "Don
have money coz earning just enough to pay his BMW expenses and petrol."
He honest and i pay for his teh tarik instead.
the next day he brought me HLA for meeting in his BMW again. when we reach there, he just park his car outside the building in a yellow line area of the street. I said again, "what the f**k, park inside lar! its ur bmw not BMX", he replied "inside parking very expensive, no one will saman outside anyway." very honest though n i don care coz not my car anyway... i went in n listen to a bunch of BS and left very earling in the morning at 1.00am...... still considered him as friend coz his honesty...
Friend no 3.
Aged 40++
codenamed "living dead"
Tried
to borrow 5k... not so close friend so i say "sorry dude, no money".
Then he left me alone and went quite for few months. But i heard from
his other close friend that he went "jeok chou/wear grass" already coz
borrow money from "ah long".
From my observation, LB is only meant for rich man... if you got friend/business contact whom ave plenty of $$$. then you can make it with their $$$. However, if a very high risk gamble with your contacts... coz LB will go out soon oneday... when it happen its also ends your business relation contact and all your biz....
just my opinion....
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I even heard that these LB member put their money to buy branded thing as to make them look grand and luxury juz for the purpose to promote their so called "luxury" in front of their potential investor juz to make the convincing how luxury they were... by doing LB pyramid scheme
This is another way of LIVE ADVERTISING are.. they invest their money to advertise their virtual luxury. Big cars, luxury items, big spenders...this is how they train they distributors. So that the public can 'idolize' them. Let's say a LB member: big cars, luxury items, big spender earns 40K per month. But in order to maintain his 'luxurious' lifestyle, 80% of his income is gone.
Are those temporary materials worth your self value & your relationship with others?
Its true that this is indeed a club for the rich people. Products are over priced thou MLM are suppose to be selling their products at fair price & not exceeding those available out in the market. Those from the middle income earners suffer lots because of their ignorance & greed. Learn the truth & share it with those you care.
Avoid dealing with salespeople who:
knowledge.Avoid dealing with companies that:
Things you should know about pyramid schemes
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LEGITIMATE DIRECT SELLING COMPANIES COMPANIES AND PYRAMID SCHEMES
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Pyramid Schemes |
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The start-up fee for all ethical multi-level selling companies is generally low, primarily to cover training materials, sales aids or demonstration kits. |
Pyramid schemes often disguise high entry fees as part of the price charged for required purchases of training, product inventory etc. Pyramid schemes make virtually all their profits from recruiting. |
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Such companies sell a wide range of quality products to the general public. The bulk of the sales are on repeat sales form satisfied customers. This is only possible because these companies spend millions on research and development to develop quality products. |
Pyramid schemes are frequently disguised to appear as legitimate direct selling companies. Such schemes are not interested in marketing these products which are of dubious value. Instead, money is made in typical pyramid fashion, from recruiting, with new distributors being pushed to purchase high cost/large inventory when they sign up. |
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Many companies have a 100 percent money-back guarantee. Dissatisfied users (and there are relatively few) could exchange the products back for money or for an equivalent amount in other products. |
Pyramid schemes will not buy back unsold inventory. Such schemes will collapse very quickly if there is this condition for re-purchase of goods. |
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These companies are interested in long-term business. In every country that they operate, this criterion is important because the companies have an obligation to their distributors who are small businessmen in their own rights. |
Pyramid schemes are get-rich quick schemes. The nature of the pyramids, in which large numbers of people at the bottom of the pyramid pay money to a few people at the top, clearly explains why the scheme cannot sustain itself for long. |
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Recognition of achievement is based on efforts. This means that a distributor's income is commensurate with the efforts he/she puts into the business. |
Position could be purchased. |
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Established companies depend on selling to customers quality products which offer value for money in order to establish a market. |
Pyramid schemes are not concerned with repeat sales to users of the products. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits who buy the products not because they are useful or attractively priced, but because they must buy them to participate in the scheme. As a result, new participants are stuck with products that are way below the market value in relation to the high entry fees paid by them. Should the pyramid scheme collapse, there is no way for the participants to recover their "investments". |
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These companies build up networks of independent distributors to sell products. |
Promoters of a pyramid scheme are engaging in fraud, knowingly deceiving participants in the schemes. |
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They have strict Rules of Conduct which, among other things, forbids its distributors to load up on inventory. |
Participants in a pyramid scheme have no choice but indulge in inventory loading/high fees to participate. |
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Distributors sell products and or services. |
Participation is essentially based on recruiting, not necessarily on the sale of products or services. |
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Direct selling is a popular method of retailing which is recognised as a lawful and legitimate business in many countries including the U.S. |
Pyramid schemes have been outlawed throughout the United States and many countries many countries around the world. |
The land of the fighting lawmakers, Taiwan, has recently broken a news about a disabled family (yes, this means the entire family consists of disabled members) fallen prey to the ever-growing essential oil scam in the region.
Apparently, a former Pro Baseball player known as “Little Guy” has cheated the family over NT$ 3 million, which is about Malaysian Ringgit 300,000.00. While this may not be a huge sum of money for certain people, it literally bankrupted the poor family based in Gaoshiong.
The product he sold to the family is a certain essential oil that has healing effect.
While fellow blogazine editor works hard to find someone to help us substantiate the claims of the miraculous healing factor of the horrendously expensive oil, there are people in Malaysia who seem to be happy burning money away too.
In fact, if you look closely at the screenshot shown above, you’d notice the logo of the products the family bought (we have highlighted the products in RED boxes) looks conspicuously like a famous essential oil brand that is also making waves in Malaysia, known as Lampe Berger.
Pyramid schemes nowadays they come
in so many forms that they may be difficult for us to recognize it
immediately. And not to say about all the new comers(especially all the
new members in DCHL), they are not capable of doing it so because most
of them are blinded by their own greed since they are still new to all
the big numbers that had been shown to them by their up-lines and by
their BOT(Business-Opportunity-Talk) presentation. To spot out an
illegitimate MLM company, it requires a certain level of knowledge in
this industry and it needs a certain period of time to do so. Of
course, this kind of knowledge people won't simply share without having
any reason to their own benefits. In other words, when someone teaches
you all these things, it's like putting money into your pocket. Only
those genuine MLM companies will teach and share this kind of knowledge
with its fellow distributors under its company in order to improve
their knowledge so that they won't fall into other fake MLM companies
which promise a much more faster substantial turn-over with less
hard-work. (normally a genuine MLM companies' business is harder and
slower to build comparing to fake ones, because the turn-over only
based on retails and actually selling product to end consumers)
All
of the pyramid schemes are sharing one overriding characteristic. They
always promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on
recruiting others to join their programs, and are not based on profits
from any retail or actual sale of products to the public. Some schemes
may seem to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to
hide their actual pyramid scheme structure.
There are two signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme:
i) Inventory loading
ii)Lack of retail sales.
Inventory
loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces new
distributors to buy more products than they could actually sell, and
most often, they are all at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout
the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid
reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to the
public. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory
that simply accumulates in their store room. A lack of retail sales is
also a sign of that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim
that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer
examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid
structure or to new distributors joining the structure, not to
consumers out in the general public.
Well,
it's wise not to be easily blinded by our own greed. Although money can
make our lifestyle better, but it doesn't mean anything to us. Except
only to our own greed. Imagine if we live in this world alone, what
does money mean to us? It's nothing to show off when we are alone. It's
just because we are living in an organization, and we always compare
ourselves to each other, then we tend to feel that money could actually
make us live a better lifestyle and to show off sometimes by buying
things we don't need, to impress people we don't like. It's really
funny, and we could actually feel how childish we actually are when we
think about ourselves on these.
The
DCHL culture is to love money, and money will love you in return. What
a crap of this quote! I went for a talk and there is a guy by the name
Wong, giving off an insight of what is MLM. Well, the talk was perfect
and it was really an eye-opening to all the new comers to the MLM
industry. But in fact, all the MLM companies do the same including all
the genuine ones. Except for the way they sell their products. And the
way they distribute and as well as teaching their distributors the real
moral value based on humanitarian ground. As we hear-said, most of the
dukes in DCHL they earn money from those misery people. It's sad why
people could be easily blinded by their own greed. I think it's time
for us to stop this kind of trap on all those youngsters and
inexperience MLMers.
All
the best to those who have been putting up hard work going against the
DCHL/SYN network distribution so far. Great job! We will never give up
and will be on-looking for any more of this kind of pyramid schemes in
the public. We should make a proper study, investigate and keep our
eyes on any new MLM company coming into the market.
--taken from Too many people are confused
I have studied many so-called “multi-level marketing” companies before I joined Shaklee faithfully. I know and I can bet my life that Shaklee, as is with Amway and Elken, is not a Pyramid Scheme.
Companies such as Quest International and Digital Crown Holdings Limited (DCHL) are amongst the many pyramid schemes around. In general, pyramid schemes are those that promote recruiting or “head-hunting”, and not selling. These companies would usually impose a high startup fee, usually amounting from hundreds to thousands of dollars, and distributors can simply earn a percentage from recruiting prospects. There is no actual “sales” and these activities are deemed unethical. In Shaklee and Amway, distributors DO NOT earn anything from recruiting, but only through their sales.
The joining fee is at a minimal and includes the processing fee as well as the starter kit. Shaklee is a legitimate network marketing company, and is reviewed and studied by many lawyers worldwide. Accusing Shaklee or even Amway as a pyramid scheme is inappropriate and unacceptable.
I do not know whether you’re one of those conspiracy theorists around, or maybe you’re from an MLM company which is in competition with Shaklee. If you’re not a certified lawyer who knows the law more than we do, I suggest that you stop accusing Shaklee of being a pyramid scheme, before you invite more trouble.
taken from comment in Will NutriFeron save you from the bird flu?
青年為了買貨升級
跪求父母借3萬搞直銷 推薦給朋友 列印
updated:2007-07-25 11:33:34 MYT
（吉 隆坡訊）銷售極品薰香精油的直銷公司以高盈利引誘青年社群，令多名剛踏入社會工作的新鮮人無法抗拒同行穿名牌、開名車的誘惑，紛紛向父母借3萬令吉，讓他 們在直銷業平步青雲。這些青年向父親跪地求情，甚至一哭二鬧三上吊四離家出走，父母一時心軟，最終賠上儲蓄多年的養老金。
2名面對同樣經歷的家長週二（24日）向行動黨蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉投訴，直銷公司以“洗腦”手段令孩子執迷不悟。
來自蕉賴舊街場的饒高北（56歲，退休人士）披露，現年24歲的長子原是窗花工人，2005年9月，長子在沒有通知家人的情況下，加入一家位於陽光廣場的直銷公司，自掏腰包2500令吉成為會員。
公司曾借馬賽地房車 Sure or not huh?
他說，長子一直自信滿滿地認為自己能在3個月內賺取3萬令吉的收入。他在去年3月正式退休後，兒子看準他可以領取公積金，不斷遊說他拿出3萬令吉，支持兒子買貨升級。
“兒子每天打電話給我，還說為籌錢而失眠，說不想我再辛苦、以後要賺錢養我等。我勸服不了他，最終心軟而提錢出來給他做生意。”
他指出，3萬令吉換來的產品是一大一小的薰香瓶和精油。一年過去，兒子不但賣不出產品，公司也不接收退貨。兒子知道父親的養老金已付諸流水，有一天突然半夜回家向他和妻子道歉，並承諾會每個月攤還金錢給他。
“兒子告訴我，他的上線曾給他穿名牌衣服，還借馬賽地房車給他開，我相信他是被人洗腦，被利益衝昏了頭，才會貿然投資直銷生意。”
他曾告訴兒子，任何工作都必須紮穩基礎，一步一步往上爬才不會跌下來，但兒子卻堅持自見，想要以3萬令吉登上上級位子，最後卻打回原型，甚麼都沒有。
哭求離開不領情
母子關係鬧僵
另一名投訴者曾綠蓉（52歲，銷售員）說，20歲的長子原本是日本餐廳員工，後來有2名同學邀請他參加該直銷公司的激勵課程，課程完畢後，便向她和18歲幼子各借600令吉，成為直銷公司會員。
她披露，2週後，平時內向的長子突然變得伶牙俐嘴，還要求她向親友借3萬令吉讓他創業。她不答應，兒子竟跪在她面前不起來，並揚言要辭掉餐廳工作，全身投入精油直銷業。
“平時。兒子下班後約11點多就會回家，但他自從加入這家直銷公司後，每天不到凌晨2點絕對看不到他的蹤影。我哭著要他離開直銷行業，他並不領情，導致我們現在的關係變得很僵，沒有說話。”
她目前最擔心的，是兒子會否為了這個行業而泥足深陷，向大耳窿借錢買貨。她希望兒子能看清真相，不要一頭栽進去，才發現這個需要會員先墊出3萬令吉的直銷業並不是他所能承擔的。
為得到父親資助
女兒圖上吊自殺 This is MADNESS!!!
行動黨蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉聲稱，這家直銷公司曾被貿消部發出警告，而他最近也接獲至少4宗家長投訴同一家精油直銷公司的案例。其中一人的女兒為了要得到父親的資助，不但哭鬧要錢，甚至離家出走及企圖上吊自殺迫使父親就範。
“任何行業都需要循序漸進，不是用錢來捧自己上位。我不否認當中的確有成功賺錢的例子，但這類精油產品是高檔貨，會員必須認識消費水平高的親友，才有辦法把貨品銷出去，否則只會作繭自縛。”
他說，一些繳付3萬令吉買貨升級的會員，為了能夠在短期內得到回酬，不停向身邊的親友推銷昂貴的精油產品，到頭來與親友絕交、人財儘失的下場。
他披露，直銷公司受直銷法令控制，即不能強迫他人購買公司產品。但是，一些業者走法律漏洞，以三寸不爛之舌遊說會員掏錢買貨，許多入息不高的年輕人對賺大錢的生活充滿憧憬，一時心動而拿出鉅款，最後才來懺悔。
他促請有關公司負責人主動與他聯絡，以商討退貨退錢的事項，否則他會集合所有投訴者的資料，向貿消部揭發對方的作業偏差行為，並建議執法組吊銷其真銷執照。 （光明日報•2007.07.25）
Just got to know yesterday that my cousin joined Digital Crown Holdings (DCHL).
She tried to get me to borrow her RM2k. She didn't mention what she was
going to use the money for, just saying that it's an emergency.
I
remember hearing my dad said that she tried to borrow money from my dad
last time for some MLM stuff, so I persisted in asking her why she need
the money. She just kept delaying until I just asked her, which
company. When I got to know that it's DCHL, I just exploded. 
I mean, of all the money sucking MLM companies around, why did she have to choose the MOST money sucking one?
Who
have not heard of the SCAM involving Lampe Berger? It has been hot
topics in forums for a very long time. Newspaper came out with stories
of students asking money from their parents to invest in this so called
company (without publishing the company's name). Most people know that
it's a scam. Why can't my cousin see it also? She's not that young,
just one year younger than me.
There's no easy money in this
world. I do believe that joining this DCHL company you can make money.
A very unethical way of making money at the expense of your downline.
You join, you pay the money, get more people to join, you get a part of
their "joining fees". Isn't that a sign of pyramid scheme?
I'm
just hoping that she lied to me about earning 5 digit income and has
over 50 downline under her. Cause she tried again today with my dad,
asking him to borrow her RM33k. Saying that she will pay him back next
month. Her loan (from where?) had been approved. If she needs RM33k,
then I sure hope that she's not in yet, cause RM33k is the amount
needed for you to get "Count" level (or so I heard). But she did say
that she's trying for "Marquis" level. Darn. Just hope that she will
wake up soon.
Enough with the rants, what exactly is Lampe Berger?
The Lampe Berger story begins at the close of the nineteenth century. Sometimes considered as a disinfecting home appliance, sometimes as a decorative item, the Lampe Berger comes across the century, resisting both fashion and an increasing competition, while earning the patronage of such distinguished artists as Coco Chanel and Jean Cocteau.
taken from http://wickywock.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
20 July 2007
KUALA LUMPUR: The government will evaluate a proposal to set up a body to govern the direct selling industry in Malaysia.
20 Julai 2007
KUALA LUMPUR:
Penganjur skim piramid yang bertopengkan syarikat jualan langsung akan
dikenakan hukuman lebih berat termasuk penjara, apabila undang-undang
khas antipiramid diperkenalkan tidak lama lagi.
Menteri Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal
Pengguna, Datuk Shafie Apdal, berkata peraturan yang dimasukkan dalam
Akta Jualan Langsung 1993 itu akan melindungi serta mengelak pengguna menjadi mangsa penipuan penganjur skim berkenaan.
“Sejak
kebelakangan ini, banyak penyelewengan dan penyalahgunaan dilaporkan
membabitkan perniagaan jualan langsung,” katanya pada sidang media
selepas merasmikan Persidangan Jualan Langsung 2007 di sini, semalam.
Sejak
Januari hingga 18 Julai lalu, kementerian itu menarik balik 12 lesen
syarikat jualan langsung kerana gagal mematuhi Akta Jualan Langsung
1993 dengan lapan daripadanya menjalankan perniagaan gores dan menang.
Kompaun
berjumlah RM927,814 juga dikenakan terhadap 49 kesalahan lain
membabitkan akta sama sehingga 15 Julai lalu. Selain itu, kementerian
masih menerima laporan mengenai ada syarikat jualan langsung yang tidak
menghantar laporan kewangan dan mengedarkan barangan tanpa mendapat
kelulusan kementerian.
Shafie berkata, penggubalan undang-undang
khas itu adalah sebahagian usaha kementerian untuk menangani dan
memantau pelbagai penyelewengan dalam operasi syarikat jualan langsung.
“Undang-undang itu kini diteliti Pejabat Peguam Negara sebelum dibentangkan di Parlimen,” katanya.
Dalam
ucapannya, Shafie berkata, industri jualan langsung di negara ini tahun
lalu mencatat jualan RM6.6 bilion, meningkat 25 peratus berbanding
RM5.3 bilion pada tahun sebelum ini
Thursday July 19, 2007
New law to curb pyramid schemes
KUALA LUMPUR: A new law will be formulated to curb unscrupulous practices through the pyramid scheme in the direct-selling business, Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Mohd Shafie Apdal said Thursday.
He said provisions on the new law would be included in the Direct Selling Act 1993.
Shafie said the ministry’s legal advisor was looking into the matter as well as having discussions with the Attorney-General’s office to ensure the new law would encompass all necessary aspects.
“I am optimistic that the move will protect direct-selling activities which are carried out legally in the country,” he told reporters after opening the 2007 Direct Selling Conference here
- by Scott Lucas @ 2006
Does your Network marketing company have the words "ongoing", "continued", or "regular" in their POLICIES AND PROCEDURES? If they do then you just might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Are you being paid more to recruit distributors than to sell product?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Are the products you're selling so high-priced that your family and friends won't buy from you?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Are you selling a product that can easily be bought down the street?
If you are, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Does the product you're selling "claim" to grow your arm back, save you more gas mileage, or cure every disease?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Are you or your Network Marketing company making claims on how much money can be made in 3, 7, 10 or 30 days?
If so, then you just might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Have you invested money to get product but still have not received it?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Have you invested money to "gift" money?
If you did, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Are you putting money into a program every month hoping you'll get it back - plus interest - in 10, 20 or 30 years?
If you are, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
Have you invested $500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 or more to "buy" your way to the top of the company?
If you did, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
If your company "moved" a group of distributor(s) from one organization to another, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.
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Scott Lucas, The MLM Whistleblower, is a member of the MLM Distributor Rights Association and a Mentor with Mentoring ForFree, Inc. Visit http://www.MLM-Whistleblower.com/mas and you'll get an ebook worth $37 at no cost!
What is a pyramid scheme?
A pyramid scheme is one which profits from the act of recruitment and not from the sale of products. Pyramid schemes are illegal scams in which people pay large sums of money for the chance to participate in the scheme. The money they pay to participate will entitle them to start at the bottom of the pyramid while the money then goes to a few people at the top. Each new participant pays for the chance to advance to the top and profit from payments of others who might join later. With time, the pyramid may collapse long before you reach the top you'll eventually run out of a never-ending supply of new and willing participants.
If there are any products sold as part of the pyramid scheme, they
are usually of low quality and often without a buy-back guarantee. In
addition, these products do not have an intrinsic value of their own
and is only purchased as a requirement to participate in the scheme.
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How do we differentiate between a legitimate business and a disguised pyramid scheme?
Pyramid schemes seek to make money from you (and quickly). Multi-level Marketing companies seek to make money with you as you build your business (and theirs) selling consumer products. Before you sign up with a company, investigate carefully.
A good way to begin is to ask yourself these three questions:
A. How much are you required to pay to become a distributor?
The
start-up fee in Multi-level companies is generally small (usually for a
sales kit sold at or below company cost). These companies want to make
it easy and inexpensive for you to start selling. Pyramid schemes make nearly all of their profit on signing up new recruits. Therefore, the cost to become a distributor is usually high.
B. Will the company buy back unsold inventory?
Legitimate
companies which require inventory purchases will usually "buy back"
unsold products if you decide to quit the business. The DSA Code of
Ethics require buy-backs for at least 90% of your original cost.
C. Are the company's products sold to consumers?
Multi-level
Marketing (like retailing) depends on selling products to consumers and
establishing a market. This requires quality products at a competitive
price. Pyramid schemes, on the other hand, are not concerned with sales
to end-users. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits, who
purchase the products not for their value but because it is required in
order to participate. Inventory purchases should never be more than you
can realistically expect to sell or use yourself
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What is DSAS?
DSAS stands for Direct Selling Association of Singapore. It is a
trade association founded by a small number of legitimate and reputable
direct selling companies. The association was gazetted on 8th October
1976 and serves to represent the interest of legitimate direct selling
companies operating in Singapore. It is also a platform for member
companies to meet regularly and to discuss matters of mutual interest
as well as to interact with other similar organizations in other
countries.
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How are MLM activities governed in Singapore?
Multi-level Marketing activities in Singapore are governed by the Multi-level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act. The Ministry of Trade and Industry administers the Act.
The original Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act was first passed in 1973. In June 2000, Parliament approved an amendment to the Act to widen the definition of pyramid selling to catch all business schemes that were multi-level in nature.
However, as not all multi-level marketing techniques are undesirable, the Government concurrently enacted the Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Excluded Schemes and Arrangements) Order (hereafter, referred to as the ‘Exclusion Order') to exclude legitimate businesses from the Act, such as insurance companies, master franchises, and direct selling companies which fulfill certain criteria. This Exclusion Order came into effect on 1 January 2002.
<For more information about the Multi-Level Marketing And
Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act and the Exclusion Order, please refer
to www.dsas.org.sg and click “Singapore Laws">
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What would happen to “innocent victims?
who participated in pyramid schemes unknowingly, and who did not benefit in any way before the scheme closed down?
Under the Act, all persons who participate in pyramid selling will be guilty of and liable to conviction to a fine not exceeding $200,000 or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both.
Members of the public should be practice due diligence when considering whether or not to join a direct selling company. They should be especially wary of get-rich-quick schemes and promises of fast and easy money.
for the rest of the FAQ , go to Direct Selling Association of Singapore & Ministry of Trade and Industry
---taken from USJ forum
Anyone heard of this? It seems there is this pyramid scheme created by a local agent(forgot its name) for LampeBerger products in Malaysia. The agents will import the products and market them though the pyramid scheme. The local agent claim that it is a aroma therapy but checking out the website of LampeBerger, there is no such word as aroma therapy! They are just perfume.
This local agent is copying the tactics employed by one DCHL company in Taiwan who started this pyramid scam in Taiwan some years ago. I understand from my friend in Taiwan that a lot of people had been duped to part with their money. One such perfume cost you more than RM2k. The way to make quick money is to pass the perfume down so that you will earn some money! So this means those who are naive enough(and not good enough to cheat their way) will be the lowest downline, hence they will be the victim of the scam. And those who are sweet-talker will get rich quick!
Interesting enough? Wait till you hear this. The company which operates the distribution (ie the company who created this scam) will not be responsible for any business dealing between uplines and downlines. So they will not be legally liable for the scam! This is because the upline and downline will be treated as a third party business owner and they are just selling these so called aromatherapy products to them. Any cheats done between upline and downline will be none of their business. But the fact is, they teach these uplines how to dupe the downlines. If you are naive enough, you will be the stupid ones who will end up with the perfume products that cost you a bomb.
Not only that, in order to boost their revenue and profit, they will offer the downline a RM30k(it's the same value offered here and Taiwan) package that will get you one or two line above the pyramid. And they will tell you that you can return it for a 90% refund if you decided to stop or you could not sell them to new downline in six months. Sound interesting business isn't it? But wait, there is no black and white to state that from the company. It is just pure verbal offer from your upline to you as it is a deal between you and your upline, remember? So it depends on how trustworthy your upline is(normally they are trustworthy as they will be your relative or close friends), you will not get your refund as your the goods that are sold to you are owned by your upline. So it is at his/her mercy whether to refund it back to you later as promised. And that is when your relative with your upline(relative or best friend) turns sour. Note that he/she might not be able to return the goods back to his upline as well, which is the reason he/she refuse to accept your return. And also Note - the scum(the company) is not involved in the problem at all!
How I know all this? Well, my wife was approached by her best friend for the RM30k package. But then she was smart, she discussed with me, do some research on the net and ask around and got the conclusion that it really is a scam. You have to dupe the people you love in order to get rich quick. Hey, I am not saying it does not work(it will work if you are a good cheat!), but it goes against our conscience.
My wife advised her best friend against joining such scam, but she was already brainwashed(with get rich quick) by her upline and told us what we got from the internet is just a sabotage by some people. And she even asked my wife "Are you scared that I will run away with your money?". This is when my wife scolded her to make her realise that she is jeopardising the relationship because of the scheme.
In the west, LampeBerger products are sold as "perfume", never "aroma therapy". And they are sold only through retail. It is only in this part of the world beginning with Taiwan, that some smart asshole(sorry fo being rude) decided that it is quicker for him to become billionaire through the pyramid scam. Well, the people are also to be blamed as the scum are only attacking their weakness - greed.
Anyway, just would like to share our experience with the pyramid scam so that hopefully, you guys will not be duped into it because of greed.
Interesting math that reveals some of the actual facts and figures of a pyramid scheme collapse. (Table data sourced from Consumers’ Association of Penang)
Let’s dissect the table above.
1) As you can see on the 10th level, the amount contributed by the members is equivalent to the commission paid out.
2) Needless to say, at the 11th level, the company would not have enough cash to reimburse new members, and this is the point where the pyramid cracks and collapse. Though it could happen way before the 11th layer due to factors such as members bailing out and when members start asking for return of their “investment”.
3) Notice also if you continue to increase the number of members until the 21st layer, you should have the entire Earth’s population under your belt, which I can assure is absurd, but nobody in the scheme is going to tell you this calculation.
4) Also, there are companies that device various formulas to slow down the collapse, such as delaying the commission paid out to the 4th layer onwards or design various conditions where the new recruits will need to fulfil before their commission kicks in. These are just steps to slow down the collapse, so in short- it’s still going to collapse!
5) When you are in such schemes, there’s virtually no way to find out which level you are in. You can try asking that question in one of those motivational talks held by such pyramid-schemed companies. I am not sure what reply you are going to get, but I am sure it’s not going to be favourable.
Nope, the aliens did not invent this pyramid. I guess they never thought human beings would fell for it. :-P
There’s absolutely no wealth or value created in a pyramid scheme, the wealth is the same before and after the system is established. There’s only a transfer of wealth from the top to bottom, where the top gained and bottom losses.
I hope that the table above can answer some of your questions on the validity of a pyramid-schemed business model.
Have you ever been gulled?
Robert L. Fitzpatrick on the Ten Big Lies of MLM:
Lie #1: MLM offers better opportunities than all other
conventional business and professional models for making large amounts of
money.
Lie #2: Network marketing is the most popular and effective
new way to bring products to market. Consumers like to buy products on a
one-to-one basis in the MLM model.
Lie #3: Eventually all products will be sold by MLM. Retail
stores, shopping malls, catalogs and most forms of advertising will soon be
rendered obsolete by MLM.
Lie #4: MLM is a new way of life that offers happiness and
fulfillment. It provides a way to attain all the good things in life.
Lie #5: MLM is a spiritual movement.
Lie #6: Success in MLM is easy. Friends and relatives are
the natural prospects. Those who love and support you will become your life-time
customers.
Lie #7: You can do MLM in your spare time. As a business, it
offers the greatest flexibility and personal freedom of time. A few hours a
week can earn a significant supplemental income and may grow to a very large
income, making other work unnecessary.
Lie #8: MLM is a positive, supportive new business that affirms the human spirit and personal freedom.
Direct seller convinced school leavers to invest in get rich quick scheme
(KL 28th)Some multilevel marketing company salesmen using dirty tricks to fool inexperienced school leavers to invest a large sum of money into get rich quick scheme!
The direct seller, for his own purpose to get rich quick, always choose school leavers as prey, trick them to join company, after becoming member, pay a large sum of money to purchase company product for the purpose to build a business.
As a result, a lot of school leavers became members, and borrow money from relatives to invest in the business, after the reality turned out to be different from what they hoped, and discovered that they are unable to have refund back for the money they invested according to the contract they signed, and lost 10s of thousand of ringgit.
2 cousins from cheras, Mr Chong(22, school leaver) and Ms Chong(22, school leaver), after joined a MLM company last october, their upline convined them to pay RM30k to do investment so they can earn big money in short time.
Mr Chong said, he and his cousin paid RM30k each, including RM2000 of member fee to join the company, discovered that their upline is cheating them, and decided to quit the business this March, but unable to take back the money.
He said, after his upline convinced him to become member, always trying to pursue him to take more money to do bigger investment, so that they can become rich and drive luxury cars, Mr Chong then brought his family to the company to know more about this business.
He said, his upline told him that after invested the money, and within 6 months discovered that this business is not suitable for him, he can quit and collect back 90% of the investment money.
He said, when he joined as member he signed a contract stating that which products can refund and which cannot, however his upline didn't explain this clearly to him.
He pointed out that when he want to buy products, due to the fact that he dont understand the products his upline has recommended him a list of products, which are all non refundable, and he lost RM14000 due to non refundable products.
Meanwhile, Ms Chong said, she joined the direct sale via her friends, after that she introduced her cousin to join the business too, and when we discovered that our upline is trying to cheat us, and decided to quit, we were informed that our products are non refundable and caused us to lost 90% of our money.
She said, her situation is different from her cousin, when buying the product her mother is helping her to pick most of the refundable products, but her upline is playing dirty tricks, as a result she only able to get refund of RM16000, and lost RM14000.
Chong cousins hope that noone else will be fallen into this trap and complained to MCA cheras.
Wu Xin Yi suggesting consumer department to set law to monitor direct sale company
MCA Cheras, Wu Xin Yi suggesting Consumer Department to monitor direct sale companies to ensure them not using dirty trick to fool their members.
He said, a lot of people complained and say that some direct sale companies using dirty tricks to fool school leavers to invest a huge sum of money into direct sale business, and caused many school leavers to borprow money from relavites, as a result, business failed, and they have a lot of debts.
He said, this is a big blow to school leavers before even they started to work.
He advises families that have any kids who just finished school and go into the society to stay alert, so that their kids will not become 'prey' of illegal direct seller.
Today he commended on the 2 school leavers lost RM14000 because they trusted their upline.
He said, these direct sellers using "pay more and earn more" theory to trick school leavers, including university graduates, to achieve their own purpose to get rich quick.
He said, actually, according to 1993 direct sale law, after members joined a direct sale company and wanted to quick, they are able to get refund of member fee.
"However, these 2 victims Mr Chong and Ms Chong not knowing this law and their upline didnt inform them about this law, they missed the opportunity to get their refund."
He said, this 2 cases is mainly due to the direct seller personal problem, and not relevant to the direct sale company, therefore he hope that the direct sale company will monitor their members carefully and take action on any direct sellers who spoil the company image.
Meanwhile, he said, according to laws, if the Chong cousins want to take back 90% of the invested money, their changes to win the case is very small.
He hoped that gov can change the existing direct sale law and pass a stricter law to monitor direct sale activities, to prevent more people fallen as victim
I am repeating the message here as I don't know which is the appropriate forum:
Sometime next month, a Company selling the French fragrance products by the name of Lampe Berger will be holding a grand seminar in Sentosa Island to revive their business in Singapore.(note, this time they change the name to SYN(Steven Yeam Network) to give it a fresh start.
They have successfully revived their business in Malaysia targeting on young students and graduates. Recently a few Malaysian newspapers have published complaints by parents about how their children got brainwashed by them and refused to listen from their parents and some even thought of leaving school to go full time in the business. Today's(June 18th) Malaysia China Press have a front page headline news about it. Such news will not affect their business but even helped and motivate their distributors who are all young, naive and rebellious to work harder for it.
They are organising more than 1,000 active young Malaysian agents to come to Singapore together next month to revive their Singapore sales by recruiting younsters. If you have any young adults in your family or young friends, caution them ahead. These are some of their tricks used in recruitment:
a) They will never tell the prospects what products they are selling during the 1st or 2nd business preview. The most they mentioned are "branded goods from France" and the name "LV"
b) They will say products are not important but making money and business is the main aim.
c) A fleet of BMWs and sport cars will be driven and parked together to impress the prospects.
d) They will remind their prospects NOT to tell anyone else until they have joined and paid up because outsiders will not understand their business and tend to give negative effects.
e) If anyone tell them they heard negative feedback from outsiders or any ex-members who left, they will say, "who should you learn from ? The successful ones like us or those failure ones ?"
f) When it come to the products, they will only boost of their over 100 years history in France but they will not tell you that in US and Europe, they are sold as fragrance and perfumes only(check the websites) at only 1/3 of the prices here and NOT as essential oils or aromatherapy products claimed by them.
g) They will use a lot of their successful members all well dressed in suits to impress their prospects but they will not tell you that out of every 1 successful, at least another 50 have lost their money and left.
h) They will not tell you the products are simply unpractical and troublesome to use. In fact a check in the websites showed the product is even dangerous. An explosion occured and someone in Taiwan got killed. HK TVB news also made a research and condemned them for cheating but their Company defended by telling their members that HK TVBS already "apologised" to them for the mistake and they forgave them.
i) They will also tell you that some of their fragrance bottles are collectors' items and can appreciate like antiques in future. In order to make you believe, they even display a few units for bidding and obviously their insiders and top-earners will jack up the price to make it believable.
j) They will tell you that you can get a refund up to 90% if you decide to return the unsold stock but most people managed to get back less than half because MOST items are not returnable. They will not tell you fully all which items are not refundable. Most people got caught and lost money because of this trap.
k) They even have lawyers and well-known people among them to give business talk so people tend to believe them easily and don't suspect that they have many "hidden" clauses in their contract.
l) Their business plan is designed in a manner to trick you to purchase the stock in someone else's name(for easier promotion) so that when it comes to return and refund, you will not be able to do it conveniently.
m) They will use their top-earner, a Malaysian by the name of Steven Yeam who is mostly based in HK now to act like a god or cult figure so that more people will adore and follow him blindly.
n) Once you joined, they will have many ways to make you pay more money. Even attending their talk or training, you need to pay. They will not tell you when they invite you. Upon arriving or halfway, they will make you pay.
o) They will make some big donation to some place and make a big publicity out of it to gain support and confidence from the public.
p) They use very high figures and discounts to attract you to buy more stock. Up to as much as 40%. Most people find it diffiult to sell off later.
q) They use lies to motivate their members and prospects. Some examples used are: "They will get listed soon in Malaysia""They will get the Singapore government to close Orchard Road for their rally and also loan them 20 helicopters to sentosa Island""They bought some share or joint-venture with Louis Vuitton in France", etc.
They will have a lot of new tricks and tactics to close a deal and those mentioned above are just a few. So do not underestimate them. Please take it seriously and if you have any friends, please e-mail or inform them with this message before they are victimized. Last I heard of, their Singapore office is in Beach Road but they might have changed now.
Please caution everyone and anyone who find this message useful, please help to circulate or link it to other forums.
Thank you for your attention.
这是从antilampeberger那里得到的最新等级价钱：
FORMHD:
什么是FORMHD?在一个SYN的人拉你进入公司前，她会先调查你的FORMHD。这些他会透过和你聊天还有其他人来得到资料。（这方面我觉得很
offense，不过别人也有点难从我或别人口中得到我这方面的资料）对他们来说，知道你得越多，就可以越容易拉你进行。还有他们的原则是不在猎物面前填
写FORMHD表格（他们有个表格要交给上线的，所以在你上线的上线还没见到你时，就已经很了解你，和你谈话时，你好象他能准确地讲出你的问题）。
F是Family(家庭）。他会尝试了解你的家庭背景，你在家里和谁关系比较好，还有你的家庭问题和状况（这两个是最重要的，因为可以打开你的心房）。
O是Occupation(职业）。他会跟他的上线报道你的工作经验，你对目前的工作的满意度，为什么你辞去过去的工作，你家人的工作，你是否参加过任何
MLM，还有你对MLM的看法以及为什么（这对他们来说是很重要的。如果你反对的话，他们会带你去听一些讲座会，然后会找人和你聊；如果你不反对的话，他
们会直接带你去他们的business centre来讲）。
R是Recreational（消遣）。他会想要知道你的嗜好，你平时都在哪里，还有你有赌博吗。
M是Money（钱）。想了解的是你目前的资金状态，你家庭的资金状态，你是从什么样子的收入家庭出生的，你目前的工钱，你是否对目前的工钱满意，你是否欠信用卡钱，还有你是否有个大家庭要支撑。
H是Health（健康）。你或者你的家庭是否有健康问题以及你是否抽烟。
D是Dreams（梦想）。你有什么梦？你的梦要工作多久才能达到？
ABP:
A - Advisor 顾问 （通常是你的上线的上线）
B - Bridge 中间人 （你的上线）
P - Prospect 可能下线 （就是你啦）
D - Passer-by 路人甲 （就是其他同行）
以下是他们的ABP步骤（我找着翻译他们的手册）：
B一定要带A4纸和计算机（这就是他们的工作工具）
1. 一定要准时接P。（避免P逃跑）
2. 满足P的要求先。（例如食物，水，以及如厕）
3. 在车里，郑重对P介绍A并叫P把手机关掉。
4. 在到达公司时，带领P四处在公司里走走（并介绍公司）
5. 在公司里，介绍P给其他的D（在公司是最好能够认识多些人）
6. 把P带到A面前，不是把A带到P面前
7. 一定要尊重A和D（不然的话，P将不会尊重A也不会在ABP里注意听）这是非常重要的
8. 把P介绍给A并说明为什么P会在公司里出现
9. 提醒P把手机关掉还有把自己的手机关掉。
10. 当ABP会谈开始时，不要让任何外物打扰会谈以及不要离开会谈。不要接听电话或者玩短讯。
11. B要专心的听A在讲什么。这样不只能让P更投入，而且也能帮助B学习成为A
12. 当ABP在进行时，千万不要更正A（如果有任何更正的话，在私低下做）
13. 每次都要间接的站在A的立场。例如，如果P觉得A很串，你可以间接地帮A说：“A也许很串而且很伤你，但会不会他说的都是真的呢？事实永远都是痛苦的。而A已经帮助了那么多人得到五位数的收入，所以全部人尊敬他。”
14. 如果你发现P不够专心，轻轻的拍一下P并叫他专心点
15. 在演讲完后，如果没有任何问题，B一定要丢出申请表格（看看P的脸部表情。如果P显示吓到的话，收起表格。申请表格是帮助找出P的问题）
16. 不要做呆子B
17. 影响P对加入生意的意愿以及讲出你加入这行生意的原因。（如果P对工作不满意，而且不够钱用，等等，可以说出来并告诉P这是个好机会）
18. 如果P对A撒谎，说出来
19. 当P还需要时间考虑时，A会离开桌子几分钟。这是因为P在A面前也许不好意思说出自己的问题。在这个时候，影响P对生意的看法。
20. 如果P还是有问题，把P带到D面前一起讨论（这是很重要的）
21. 在P还没遇到D之前，说明D的背景
22. 每次都是把P带到D面前，而不是把D带到P面前。一定要尊重D因为D是在尝试帮助你。
23. 给D一点暗示让他知道P的问题。（例如：如果P有RM 2345的问题：“D，上次当你在加入这行生意时，钱是一个问题吗？你怎么拿到你的RM 2,345的？”）
24. 对P下个预防药并封住他的嘴巴（告诉P说外人会“泼冷水”然后说这行生意是不可行的。所以，不要告诉任何人先。这是因为我们有个逐渐增强的系统让我们追随）
25. 在回家途中，把你的个人经验说出来影响P
26. 跟进
ABP时的坐法：
1. 每次都要坐在P的左边（日本文化相信如果坐在P的心脏旁就能拉近关系）
2. 做得离P近点而不是A(这样P才会觉得你是和他一国的）
3. 尝试让P坐在面对墙壁的一方（这样才会减少外扰）
邀请你去听讲座：
这个组织的人问问题就神了！他们在邀请你去所谓的BOT时，不会问说“你明天有没有空？”或者说“你几时有空？”。他们会问说“你星期五晚上还是星期六晚
上有空？”。这招各位可以学学来约女子出来，不错的说。其实呢
